Tuesday, May 12, 2009

Battle of the Hypotheticals

Alright, fine with me. You scab-dick wingnuts wanna dance with torture? Let's dance...

Your wife is a Secret Service Agent, working on a detail protecting President Obama during a meeting with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Brussels, Belgium. You wife speaks fluent Farsi and is a expert on Iranian tactics. The KKK gets wind of this through a spy in Congress who is going on the trip. This congresswoman attends a security briefing that gives detailed instructions on how to move and act in transition to the meeting by none other than the love of your life, your wife.

This congresswoman befriends your wife by asking "very important" questions that helps her get the rest of the congress critters there to agree to the Secret Service's wishes with little push back(which is NOT the norm).

Your wife is very grateful because these briefings are the bane of her existence! She often exclaims to you "If they had cancer on their obvious death bed and were told if they did not do what the doctors said they would certainly die...shakes fists wildly in the air...they would argue with the doctors!!!"

So she has a little extra time, and calls you. Ya know, just to give her big stud a little sugar talk before she leaves in two days. The call turns into phone sex(as it often does) and leave both of you quite satisfied. However, she tells you afterward that you can come by for the real thing if you wanted, she has about 6hrs of R'n'R and gives you the time and place..."I'll be at the hotel I blew you at while I was working back in '98, room 222." "Same place...same time, baby?" You agree without hesitation, hang up, and pay for a flight out to D.C. the next morning on priceline.com! But you are never going to make that flight...

An hour and twenty-nine minutes later, while you are packing, you get a little visit by some bikers with racists tendencies and bad attitudes...oh, and a plan.

Next thing you know you are strapped to a chair, legs pulled behind your ears with your arms pulled behind your back and tied to said legs. Then a cucumber is shoved up your ass. Call it a "stress position", if you will. Then they cut your nipples off with razor blades and work their way to your overly exposed balls. All they want is the time and place you got a blow-job from your wife in 1998. That's all the racist bikers need to get paid and then slice your balls off anyway.

Do you give them the information they want? Well, do you? Punk.


Blogger Perry Dorrell, aka PDiddie said...


I may need to borrow that.

Wed May 13, 09:08:00 AM CDT  
Blogger Elmo said...

you're welcome to it...

Wed May 13, 10:47:00 AM CDT  
Blogger Elmo said...

"The United States participated actively and effectively in the negotiation of the Convention [Against Torture]. It marks a significant step in the development during this century of international measures against torture and other inhuman treatment or punishment. Ratification of the Convention by the United States will clearly express United States opposition to torture, an abhorrent practice unfortunately still prevalent in the world today. The core provisions of the Convention establish a regime for international cooperation in the criminal prosecution of torturers relying on so-called "universal jurisdiction." Each State Party is required either to prosecute torturers who are found in its territory or to extradite them to other countries for prosecution."

-Ronald Reagan

Wed May 13, 10:47:00 AM CDT  
Anonymous jack rabbit said...

And you don't see that your bullshit boring post on this blog as a form of torture?

Torture has been a very valuable tool for centuries. Its natural, what is the fucking problem?

Besides pissing on a guy and making him walk around naked is not torture.

Wed May 13, 12:20:00 PM CDT  
Blogger Elmo said...

Then you are open to me pissing on you and making you walk around naked?

And I need to correct you - torture has been seen as useless tool for centuries. Unless you need a false confession, that is...

Wed May 13, 01:47:00 PM CDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"All too often our govt trims facts & evidences to fit ideological
pre-dispositions." Pres. Obama in his speech yesterday.

What an honest statement from Obama about HIS administration.

THIS President (and some within his Administration) has seen documents that prove without a doubt that the CIA made extraordinary gains after waterboarding Abu Z & KSM, and THIS PRESIDENT refuses to release those documents because THOSE FACTS don't fit HIS ideological predispositions.

One of the many things KSM gave up ONLY after being waterboarded was a list of 85 names of KEY AL Q players who were in the process of planning further attacks against the US & US interests abroad.

These documents - contrary to the LIE Obama put forward yesterday - prove that these techniques WERE effective when used on Abu Z and KSM.

With those names the CIA busted AL Q and made further gains as a result of gaining that information that was given up by KSM ONLY AFTER he was waterboarded.

Sometimes with the great pressure of time, one must do things that are not pleasant to save peoples lives.

In total we have waterboarded three people at Gitmo. That is it! But what we gained saved 1000's of lives.
But libs keep acting like
GITMO was a museum of torture.

If liberals and the President really wanted an intellectually honest conversation about EIT's - the President would release those documents. BUT HE REFUSES TO and WORSE, HE WHITEWASHED THEM!

These classified memos prove the efficacy of these techniques. The Pres is LYING when he claims that he looked at the intelligence reports and they don't prove their efficacy.

When the Presidents Director of Intelligence, Dennis Blair discussed them & their success in an op-ed, rather than allow for an intellectually honest conversation, the President ripped Blair a new one, then ordered that this information be scrubbed --- the President ORDERED that the truth be whitewashed---- and then he instructed his Dennis Blair - Obama's OWN Dir of Intel, to release a completely different statement the next day.

In other words - he instructed Blair to whitewash the truth & LIE to Americans!

Al Q respect no norms of civilized behavior. They walk into Muslim funerals blow up their own people.

They want to use instruments from our daily life, planes, cell phones, laptops, to attack an open society,and by fiat,attack the one glue that keeps an open society open and functioning - TRUST.

You cannot draw absolute lines when it comes to today's terrorists who are not state sponsored and who walk among us daily. This scenario is NOT what Pres Reagan faced and from his character,I have no doubt he would have practiced rendition or approved the use of EITs.

President Clinton practiced rendition to secure information by any means necessary. Bush approved EITS at Gitmo. And Obama has reserved the right to use EIT's in a "ticking time bomb" scenario. So much for his belief that EIT's are not effective.

Fri May 22, 08:02:00 AM CDT  
Blogger Elmo said...

You need to cut down on your intake of Hollywood bedtime stories.

First, there is no proof torture works. Ever. In the history of the world. A point that was proven once again when we caught Abu Zubaydah during a gun battle in Pakistan in 2002. The FBI sent in Ali Soufan and Steve Gaudin because they were the best in the world at getting al Qaeda agents to crack. Within an hour of Abu Zubaydah's arrival at the secret prison, he was revealing parts of the 9/11 plot and had identified the mastermind, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Not by water boarding him, but by using techniques you wingnuts mock as "being nice to the terrorists." Zubaydah's heath was in bad shape so they had the best doctors and surgeons sent in to fix him up because he was such a valuable source of information. But that all stopped the day Cheney sent in a CIA team and a contractor(James E. Mitchell) to start water boarding him. He clamed up tighter than Ft. Knox after that. He gave a little more less usable info, but he was overflowing with good Intel before the water boarding started.

So you see, like we've already known for thousands of years, torture does not work because it is COUNTER PRODUCTIVE. What good is it to take one step forward if it will cause one to take two more steps back? So you keep claiming that [that] one step forward proves torture works while ignoring the two steps it put our country back. Since your Hollywood education has made you so much smarter than centuries of scholarly work on the subject.

Fri May 22, 11:02:00 AM CDT  

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