Tuesday, November 22, 2005

Willie Pete

If you have a weak stomach stop. Go somewhere else. Elmo has no problem showing reality as it is, pure, and most defiantly disgusting. White Phosphorus. That is what's falling on this poor soul. Our government used it in Falluja. This is what he looked like soon after...








"He who has a 'why' to live, can bear with almost any 'how'."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche


Blogger Cabe said...

The picture they posted is not White Phosphorus. White Phosphorus is usually yellow.

We used White Phosphorus in WWII, and currently no treaty we are in bans the use of it.

Falluja was a hell hole, with drug induced terrorists that wouldn't go down even with numerous bullets in their chests. By all means, necessary force was used.

If this outrages you, then you should look at pictures of dead and mutilated Kurds in 1988. Thousands.

Wed Nov 23, 02:28:00 AM CST  
Blogger Stan said...

What is wrong with White Phosphorous? Seems to work? Kills the bad guys, or were we not supposed to kill them????

Wed Nov 23, 02:40:00 AM CST  
Blogger Cabe said...

I'll spare you the trouble:

Or Here,
Don't forget this one
Or this one
Oh and my personal favorite
Ooops heres another

Wed Nov 23, 02:42:00 AM CST  
Blogger Elmo said...

Two wrongs don't make a right cabe. And guess what? We can never kill all the people that hate us...until they stop breeding.

What is your MOS stan?

Wed Nov 23, 08:27:00 AM CST  
Blogger Smartypants said...

What Would Jesus Do?

Wed Nov 23, 08:43:00 AM CST  
Blogger Cabe said...

Numerous wars in the Old Testament were justified by God. Then again you folks don't believe in God?

That little incident of White Phosphorus was no comparison to Halabja.

Wed Nov 23, 09:22:00 AM CST  
Blogger Smartypants said...

Um. You don't know me, don't assume. So...why do you think that I don't believe in God? (You are wrong, by the way.)

We might have some common ground. You just never know. Try finding it first before picking a fight.

Wed Nov 23, 09:35:00 AM CST  
Blogger Gyrobo said...

This is such a great Thanksgiving Day post.

So, anyone hear about that nor'easter?

Wed Nov 23, 10:13:00 AM CST  
Blogger fatrobot said...

i guess all iraqis are bad guys and worthy of being killed
killing civilians is reprehensible no matter who does it
god is never on the side of murderers

Wed Nov 23, 10:25:00 AM CST  
Blogger Peaky said...

for all the wrongs on either side the IEDs the chemical weapons the worst pictures are not of the dead it's the pictures of the mothers, fathers, sons and daughters of the dead those that who survive. The fact that mankind continues to do this to one another is the saddest thing I know.

Wed Nov 23, 10:25:00 AM CST  
Blogger Elmo said...

peaky is right...

That's why war is always the last option, and always has been, unless your an idiot chickenhawk.

Wed Nov 23, 10:47:00 AM CST  
Blogger Cabe said...

It's not just this war. It's nearly every war liberals oppose. Take my English Professor for example, she says that there are no justified American Wars.

Did you know that Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan want to retreat from Afghanistan too? Do you stand with them? Or where does your liberalism end?

Wed Nov 23, 11:01:00 AM CST  
Blogger Smartypants said...

I have some friends serving as officers in the Army right now. Don't you dare assume a thing about what I believe.

Just because I don't believe their lives are worth sacrificing for the war in Iraq doesn't mean you know anything about me.

If you feel so strongly about the war, why are you blogging about it? Why aren't you in Iraq?

Wed Nov 23, 11:16:00 AM CST  
Blogger pop renaissance said...

"Did you know that Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan want to retreat from Afghanistan too? Do you stand with them? Or where does your liberalism end?"

did you know there were *gasp* other liberals than michael moore and cindy sheehan? always interesting to see people (with confederate flags, no less) knocking a grieving mother.

remember: if yer blogging, chances are yer not in iraq. so go.

Wed Nov 23, 11:26:00 AM CST  
Blogger Elmo said...

I'm all for catching and, or killing Osama...but he's not in Iraq.

Is there a ChickenHawk gene or is it a learned trait?

Wed Nov 23, 11:37:00 AM CST  
Blogger Cabe said...

It is absurd to believe the notion that many support the troops but not their mission. How can you support the troops when you constantly criticize them for a variety of ridiculous reasons? White Phosphorus being a recent example.

It's like saying to your wife, "Sweetheart I support you, but everything you do upsets me." Their will never be a war in which liberals will rally behind. They don't understand that perpetual peace is a futile dream.

Your circular logic is fruitless. The premise of your question is that if I support the troops why am I not in Iraq? I could ask you the very same question. If you support the troops, why aren't you there? It's because you don't support them. Now do you understand how your argument has faults? You don't support their mission, and so you wouldn't go...yet you support them, but I thought that you believe those who support the military belong in Iraq? Partial Support? Lol.

By the way I support you, but not your posts.

Wed Nov 23, 11:43:00 AM CST  
Blogger Elmo said...

I'm thinking of going back to Crawford this weekend cabe, to help support the troops. What have you done to support the troops?

Wed Nov 23, 11:44:00 AM CST  
Blogger Elmo said...

I've been to Iraq already. And being a chickenhawk is like having your house on fire and running out to protect yourself, leaving your family inside. It's the fire departments job to save them, right?

Wed Nov 23, 11:54:00 AM CST  
Blogger Smartypants said...

You'd be surprised how easy it is to have your friends' backs and not support the morons who issue the orders to them.

Whose decision was it to use the WP? The grunts? No. I went to a very pro-military college and I know a few things about the chain of command.

So go ahead and buy another yellow ribbon car magnet and slap it on the back of your car. The troops benefit so much from that. Or is it the convenience store owners?

Wed Nov 23, 12:04:00 PM CST  
Blogger fatrobot said...

troops follow orders, one can be in support of your borthers and sisters in the army becuase no one wants them killed
but you can also be against the orders they are given and the mission they are on
only a fool cannot see the difference there

killing innocent people and destroying families is the worst thing one can do

unfortunatley the USA is run by war profiteers who get rich building the bullets that find their way into an enemy or a child
get rich rebuilding the mess and misery that they cause

if the USA wants to fight some bad guys, go to the congo, uganda, or sudan

PS. not every 'liberal' cares what michael moore has to say

Wed Nov 23, 12:25:00 PM CST  
Blogger Cabe said...

House fire? I've been through a terrible house fire, and I helped my family get out alive.

Were you making an analogy, or doing an investigation?

You really think your blog is helping our troops?

Wed Nov 23, 01:02:00 PM CST  
Blogger Elmo said...

Whatever gets 'em home faster and ends this illegal war your fascist political hero's got us into.

How long are you prepared to let them stay? Forever?

Wed Nov 23, 01:43:00 PM CST  
Blogger Stan said...

I am SOL right now with the Army My hopeful MOS is in law, until I become an officer, but thats down the road, still have to go to MEPS, which means my recruiters have to get their heads out of their behinds. I've been getting the run-around, Sucks trying to get in the Army after enrollment in DEP.

Anyway, I support the war and the troops, and do not belive we targeted civilians on purpose.
I don't think it matters whether we use bullets, VX, or voodoo, so long as it kills the enemy.

Wed Nov 23, 02:00:00 PM CST  
Blogger Stan said...

Bush is hardly a fascist, prove it.
If you support the troops go join, if you are against the war go join the insurgency.

Wed Nov 23, 02:02:00 PM CST  
Blogger Elmo said...

I knew you weren't a grunt, but you still can be. They'll have you in Iraq in 3 months. Law uh, that's nice and safe.

if you are against the war go join the insurgency.

You have to realize how idiotic that statement is. I love my fellow warriors that's why I want them home and not stuck in a quagmire like you want.

Wed Nov 23, 02:34:00 PM CST  
Blogger indygirl said...

Seriously, what is wrong with these people? How can you look right at this EVIL and find any "good" use for it? I am disgusted.

Wed Nov 23, 02:35:00 PM CST  
Blogger Elmo said...

They would have been OK with dropping a nuke on Baghdad.

Wed Nov 23, 02:56:00 PM CST  
Blogger Stan said...

"You have to realize how idiotic that statement is."

Almost as idiotic as telling pro-war people shut up or join the military, thanks for proving my point.

Wed Nov 23, 04:24:00 PM CST  
Blogger Elmo said...

stan, you remind me of my little brother. He would pick a fight with an older kid then run behind me for protection when they went to kick his ass. He would taunt them from behind me. I protected him, he is my brother, but he was still a big chicken.

Wed Nov 23, 04:54:00 PM CST  
Blogger phinky said...

Nice beard Stan. I hope you have a shaving profile, because your blogger profile says you are in the Army. Real soldiers don't like wannabes. And the JAG officers will just love you. One more thing Stan, when you are in the DEP you ARE in the Army. I think you are waiting for the war in Iraq to be over before you join the Army.

And Cabe, I love the rebel flag. Couldn't you find a flag with a swastika on it? Why do I think you were singing a different song in 1999 during the Kosovo War?

Why do I have a feeling these guys would be really good friends of Tim McVeigh. You know the soldier who washed out of SF school and blew up the Murrah Building? Now there was a real patriot.

Wed Nov 23, 07:06:00 PM CST  
Blogger phinky said...

Elmo, these guys sound like a job for Operation Yellow Elephant.

Wed Nov 23, 07:08:00 PM CST  
Blogger Elmo said...

stan proved himself a phony when he said "My hopeful MOS is in law." Your slap-down was the best all day though. Nice job phinky!

Wed Nov 23, 07:56:00 PM CST  
Blogger Church Secretary said...

Empathy, Elmo, empathy. What the wingnuts and chickenhawks lack is empathy. These faux macho dillweeds think all the murder and mayhem being done in their name is okay, because they believe they'll never ever suffer the same fate. It's easy to talk tough and be a hardliner when the flesh being burned alive is halfway across the globe. I seriously doubt you'll see these panty-wastes in a recruiter's line any day soon.

And before one of you weedbenders trots out the "why aren't you.." defense, I don't fight unless I'm attacked. Iraq didn't attack me, so I had no reason to fight against Iraq. Besides, if you're square with what's going on over there, and you think it's a moral crusade, then put your own cowardly ass where your meaningless tough talk is. I don't accept any method of 'supporting the troops' that involves leaving them in an unjust, immoral situation getting their asses blown off. Especially not so lily-livered, spoiled nutjobs like yourselves can sit over here and cheer on the deaths of innocents.
(And before you resurrect that tired wingnut horseshit about "Halabja," where were you when the Reaganites were shaking Saddam's hand for gassing those people?)

One more thing: I like the Klan member up there who taunted phantom libruls for being atheists, then referred to the OLD TESTAMENT to justify his heros' ordering the murder of innocent people. Hey, Stan! Ever heard of someone named JESUS CHRIST? You know, the PRINCE OF PEACE?!

Elmo, why do we bother?

Wed Nov 23, 08:56:00 PM CST  
Blogger Elmo said...

Elmo, why do we bother?

Because we must CS...we can't allow them to win. Your post was most eloquently...uh, brilliant!

Wed Nov 23, 09:32:00 PM CST  
Blogger Church Secretary said...

Thanks, but I confused Stan with Cabe. An easy mistake, I know, but those of us in the reality-based community should take care to be a bit more accurate.

Fight on, Elmo!

Wed Nov 23, 09:38:00 PM CST  
Blogger Elmo said...

Fight on I will...your daughter is beautiful!

Wed Nov 23, 10:22:00 PM CST  
Blogger teh l4m3 said...

"Anyway, I support the war and the troops..."

Just not enough to do much besides clapping.

"...and do not belive we targeted civilians on purpose."

And as we all know, journalists are combatants...

(Crud, am I too late for the bubba smackdown?)

Wed Nov 23, 11:59:00 PM CST  
Blogger Church Secretary said...

Thanks, Elmo! She takes after her mother, thank the Lord.

Thu Nov 24, 03:44:00 AM CST  
Blogger Stan said...

A lot of unwarranted personal attacks, so much for some decent debate. I know I am in the ARmy, hence my DEP status. I just wanted to go sooner rather than my original ship out date. But that is where the mess begins.

I do think wars are justifiable, WWII for example, WWI, the revolutionary war, Korean conflict, Gulf War one, and the Iraq war. We didn't have the magic ability of hindsight, we saw a threat, thats why the Senate bi-partisanly approved it. You cannot get around that.

I hope I can go to Iraq, I truly want to, but it won't make a difference about my moral authority to speak for or against any war.

Thu Nov 24, 11:10:00 AM CST  
Blogger Stan said...

Let me clarify, our participation, was justifiable in the wars I mentioned.

Thu Nov 24, 11:10:00 AM CST  
Blogger phinky said...

Stan, while you are waiting in the DEP. You might want to start running and learn to run faster. And get your running shoes from store that specializes in running shoes. The sales clerks at AAFES do not know anything about analyzing foot shape or running style. Trust me, it will save you much pain, suffering and humiliation while at basic training.
I'm glad you have the guts to go fight for what you believe in. Now about your buddy Cabe. Were you able to get him to sign up with you on the buddy system?

Thu Nov 24, 01:40:00 PM CST  
Blogger Stan said...

I can run 7 consecutive miles max, but in what time frame I do not know- my guess is about 8-9 minutes a mile, and yes I know I have a whole lot of work to do, before I am ready for BCT. But thanks for the info Phinky. I can't comment on Cabe, but I will say he's got a good reason.

Thu Nov 24, 10:20:00 PM CST  
Blogger Cabe said...

Hey Phinky, thanks for directing your moonbats to spam my site. It's nice to know what kind of absurdity faces this country.

Disagreements are no reason to spam blogs with death threats, repeated profanity, or other acts of this nature.

Thu Nov 24, 10:40:00 PM CST  
Blogger phinky said...

Then you will think twice before trolling won't you?

Fri Nov 25, 10:35:00 AM CST  
Blogger Cabe said...

I wasn't trolling. Elmo posted on my blog and so I posted on his. Ignorance runs wild in Blue America doesn't it Pinko?

Fri Nov 25, 04:18:00 PM CST  
Blogger phinky said...

Just like hatred runs wild in red America?

Fri Nov 25, 06:16:00 PM CST  
Anonymous sledge hammer said...

Rather ironic that two chicken shits who love war as long as they can sit on their gutless bitch asses would commend the use of chemical munitions. I think these lads need to get their extremely gung hoe asses off to a recruiter, but since they have balls the size of shrunken peas, I doubt that that trip will happen very soon. Good thing they can fight a war from their mommies basement !!!!

Sun Nov 27, 11:05:00 AM CST  
Blogger Cabe said...

Operation Yellow Elephant:
Enlist Bush Voters & Send them to Iraq.

Operation Yellow Ass:
Abort every John Kerry voter.

I'm willing to support Yellow Elephant, if you support Yellow Ass.

Your logic doesn't make sense.

Mon Nov 28, 01:31:00 AM CST  
Anonymous sledge hammer said...

I'll happily send any pro war Dem to the recruiter along with you. So when are you going to get your chicken hawk ass to the recruiter, little boy ?

Mon Nov 28, 07:38:00 AM CST  
Blogger Elmo said...

WOO HOO ya'll had fun this long weekend!

Hey cabe, I need a new link for "good news from Iraq" The one I have has not been updated since July.

Mon Nov 28, 08:39:00 AM CST  
Blogger Smartypants said...

Oh man. I wanted to be the 50th comment!

Mon Nov 28, 09:12:00 AM CST  
Blogger teh l4m3 said...

Cabe must be deliberately acting obtuse. [Repeats more slowly] No, you do not have to "shut up" if you refuse to serve in Iraq. But surely you see that if you are for a war, and believe in it as a noble and just cause, you have a moral obligation to enlist and serve, and that if you don't, your credibility in any debate is severely compromised?

No? Still don't get it? I'm not surprised. With such stellar cognitive abilities, it's no wonder recruiters aren't busting down your front door.

The military does need a modicum of brains behind those guns, after all...

Mon Nov 28, 12:17:00 PM CST  
Anonymous sledge hammer said...

Cabe aka flaming pussy systematically removes any dissenting opinion from his beloved blog, so perhaps the same consideration could be afforded the gutless bastard.

Mon Nov 28, 07:48:00 PM CST  
Blogger Elmo said...

Excellent teh.

surely you see that if you are for a war, and believe in it as a noble and just cause, you have a moral obligation to enlist and serve

Let me add...

If you are for America you are obligated to serve her high purpose and fight for her survival.

cabe believes the war in Iraq is that which preserves our freedom...but he is not there.

We believe our treasured nation is being bastardized and profiteered into a nightmarish consequences, and we shout it to the heavens!

Who would I go to war with? Not cabe and his ilk...my liberal friends have more backbone

Mon Nov 28, 08:51:00 PM CST  
Blogger Elmo said...

Hopefully we wont need you anymore Sledge. Wishful thinking, I know...stay on alert.

Mon Nov 28, 09:03:00 PM CST  

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